What Did the Brothers Discuss Privately After Losing Their Appeal?
ما الذي دار بين الإخوة في ذلك النقاش الخاص بينهم؟
First: when the brothers despaired of al-Aziz (Yusuf (peace be upon him) accepting to release the one who had the stolen Gold cup with him, and keeping one of them in his place instead, they met with each other alone and discussed.
Secondly, the oldest of them, Ruben, the firstborn son of Yaqoub pbuh [corrected: the original text called him “elder brother to Yacoub,” but the Arabic text of this same answer identifies him as Yaqoub’s own firstborn son, not his brother], reminded them about the pact they had given their father, and he reminded them of what they had done to their brother Yusuf, and therefore he said that their father Yaqoub would not believe them when they tell him what happened. Consequently, Rubin, would remain in the land of Egypt until the father allowed him to return, or that Allah’s Almighty Command would appear, and perhaps it was modesty that led him not to return to the land of Canaan (Palestine).
Thirdly: the eldest brother advised them to tell their father what had actually happened and what they saw with their own eyes; that his son had stolen, which is what prevented their brother from returning with them. And the caravan they traveled with can attest to the validity of what they say.
(When they lost all hope in him, they spoke privately. The eldest of them said, “Do you not know that your father had taken a solemn oath by Allah from you, nor how you failed him regarding Yusuf before? So I am not leaving this land until my father allows me to, or Allah decides for me. For He is the Best of Judges. Go back to your father and say, ‘O our father! Your son has stolen. We only testify to what we know. We could not have prevented the unforeseen. Ask the town where we were and the caravan we returned with. We are certainly telling the truth.’) Yusuf 12: 80-82 [corrected: the original cited only verse 80, but the quoted Arabic passage in this same answer continues through verse 82]
أولاً: لما يئس القوم من قبول العزيز (وهو يوسف-عليه السلام-) بعرضهم في إطلاق من وجد عنده المتاع وإبقاء أحدهم مكانه، اجتمعوا فيما بينهم دون أن يكون معهم أحد، وجعلوا يتباحثون أمرهم.
ثانيًا: قال أكبرهم سنا (وهو روبين بكر يعقوب- عليه السلام-) يقررهم بالميثاق، ويذكرهم بما فعلوه بأخيهم يوسف، وبناء على ذلك فإنه يقول لهم إن أباهم يعقوب لن يصدقهم فيما قالوا، وإذا كان الأمر كذلك فإن روبين “بكر” سيبقى في أرض مصر حتى يأذن الأب برجوعه، أو يظهر أمر الله-عز وجل-، ولعل الحياء هو الذي حمله على عدم العودة إلى أرض كنعان (فلسطين).
ثالثاً: وصَّاهم الأخ الأكبر بما يقولون لأبيهم ما جرى حقيقة وما شاهدوه بأعينهم بأن الابن سرق، وأن ذلك الذي رأوه وأخبروه عنه، وهو السبب الذي منع من رجوع أخيهم معهم، ويشهد لصحة ما قالوه القافلة التي سافروا معها.
“فَلَمَّا اسْتَيْأَسُوا مِنْهُ خَلَصُوا نَجِيًّا قَالَ كَبِيرُهُمْ أَلَمْ تَعْلَمُوا أَنَّ أَبَاكُمْ قَدْ أَخَذَ عَلَيْكُمْ مَوْثِقًا مِنَ اللَّهِ وَمِنْ قَبْلُ مَا فَرَّطْتُمْ فِي يُوسُفَ فَلَنْ أَبْرَحَ الأرْضَ حَتَّى يَأْذَنَ لِي أَبِي أَوْ يَحْكُمَ اللَّهُ لِي وَهُوَ خَيْرُ الْحَاكِمِينَ * ارْجِعُوا إِلَى أَبِيكُمْ فَقُولُوا يَا أَبَانَا إِنَّ ابْنَكَ سَرَقَ وَمَا شَهِدْنَا إِلا بِمَا عَلِمْنَا وَمَا كُنَّا لِلْغَيْبِ حَافِظِينَ * وَاسْأَلِ الْقَرْيَةَ الَّتِي كُنَّا فِيهَا وَالْعِيرَ الَّتِي أَقْبَلْنَا فِيهَا وَإِنَّا لَصَادِقُونَ”
1. Why the Eldest Brother Took the Lead | لماذا تولى الأخ الأكبر القيادة
Reuben, identified in the exegetical tradition as Yaqoub’s firstborn son, is the one who speaks for the group once they withdraw to confer. His seniority carries weight in how he frames the problem for the others, opening not with a plan but with a reminder of what they had promised and what they had already done wrong once before.
روبين، الذي تحدده التقاليد التفسيرية بأنه بكر يعقوب، هو من تحدث باسم المجموعة حين انسحبوا للتشاور. ولأقدميته وزن في كيفية تأطيره للمشكلة أمام الباقين، إذ افتتح لا بخطة بل بتذكير بما وعدوا به وبما سبق أن أخطأوا فيه مرة.
2. A Vow the Brothers Could Not Break | عهد لا يستطيع الإخوة نقضه
Reuben’s first move is to invoke the solemn pledge before Allah that they had given their father (see how Yusuf planned to bring his brother to him), alongside the memory of their earlier failure regarding Yusuf. Naming both together shows he understood the danger was not just this one broken promise, but a pattern their father would now have every reason to doubt.
تحرك روبين الأول هو استحضار الميثاق الجليل أمام الله الذي أعطوه لأبيهم (انظر مقال كيف دبّر يوسف لمقدم أخيه)، إلى جانب تذكيرهم بتقصيرهم السابق تجاه يوسف. وذكر الأمرين معا يبين أنه أدرك أن الخطر لم يكن هذا الوعد المنقوض وحده، بل نمطا سيصبح لأبيهم كل الحق في الشك فيه.
3. Choosing to Stay Rather Than Break His Word | اختيار البقاء على نقض الوعد
Rather than return empty-handed, Reuben resolves to remain in Egypt until his father permits him back or Allah decides the matter for him. Commentators read this as a genuine act of accountability, choosing exile over the appearance of having abandoned his word, rather than a plan to fix the situation by force or deception.
بدلا من العودة خالي الوفاض، عزم روبين على البقاء في مصر حتى يأذن له أبوه بالعودة أو يحكم الله له. ويقرأ المفسرون هذا فعلا حقيقيا من المساءلة الذاتية، باختيار المنفى على مظهر نقض الوعد، لا خطة لإصلاح الوضع بالقوة أو الخداع.
4. Offering Evidence, Not Just Words | تقديم الدليل لا الكلام فقط
Reuben does not simply ask the brothers to assert their story; he tells them to point their father toward people who can confirm it, the townspeople and the caravan that traveled with them. Instructing them to invite outside verification, rather than relying on their word alone, reflects a concern for accountability that was notably absent from how they handled Yusuf the first time.
لم يكتفِ روبين بأن يطلب من الإخوة تأكيد روايتهم، بل أمرهم بتوجيه أبيهم إلى من يمكنه تأكيدها، أهل القرية والقافلة التي سافرت معهم. ويعكس توجيههم لطلب تحقق خارجي، بدلا من الاعتماد على كلامهم وحده، حرصا على المساءلة كان غائبا بشكل لافت عن تعاملهم مع يوسف في المرة الأولى.
5. Honesty Even When It Hurts | الصدق حتى وإن كان مؤلما
The eldest brother’s instruction is to tell their father plainly what happened, that his son was found with the stolen cup, rather than to soften or reshape the story. After a family history marked by an earlier lie about Yusuf, this insistence on the unflattering truth marks a real shift in how the brothers now choose to deal with their father.
توصية الأخ الأكبر هي أن يخبروا أباهم بصراحة بما حدث، أن ابنه وُجد الصواع المسروق معه، بدلا من تلطيف الرواية أو إعادة صياغتها. وبعد تاريخ عائلي طبعته كذبة سابقة بشأن يوسف، يمثل هذا الإصرار على الحقيقة غير المريحة تحولا حقيقيا في كيفية تعامل الإخوة الآن مع أبيهم.
Scholarly Insight: Surah Yusuf 12:80-82 records Reuben’s private counsel to his brothers, his decision to remain in Egypt rather than break his pledge, and his instruction to tell their father the plain truth with witnesses who could confirm it. Read the fuller context in the tafsir of Surah Yusuf.
Frequently Asked Questions | الأسئلة الشائعة
Who led the brothers’ private discussion?
According to tafsir reports, Reuben, Yaqoub’s eldest son.
Why did Reuben decide not to return to Canaan?
He chose to remain in Egypt until his father permitted his return or Allah decided the matter, rather than break the pledge he had given.
What pact were the brothers trying to honor?
The solemn oath before Allah that they had given their father to bring Benjamin back safely.
What did Reuben tell the others to say to their father?
To tell him plainly that his son had stolen, and to point him to the townspeople and caravan who could confirm their account.
Which verses of the Quran record this discussion?
Surah Yusuf 12:80-82.
Prepared by Eng. Ghada Homad, founder of IslamFAQ, researched and written in consultation with qualified scholars, reviewed by Professor Khaled Jassem Al-Houli, Associate Professor of Comparative Jurisprudence and Islamic Politics, Faculty of Sharia and Islamic Studies, University of Kuwait. Read more about the authors and this project →